Highlights from the Compliance + Ethics = Integrity Podcast
In this recent podcast, BerryDunn’s Robyn Hoffmann, Senior Compliance and Credentialing Manager in BerryDunn’s Healthcare Practice Group, Denny Roberge, Senior Manager in BerryDunn’s Healthcare and Not-for-Profit Practice Groups, and Roger Rego, Revenue Cycle Manager in BerryDunn’s Healthcare Practice Group, discuss the revenue cycle implications for the end of the Public Health Emergency.
Highlights from this episode:
- Collecting patient information at the time of scheduling
- How EHRs (Electronic Health Records) can help with your workflows and decrease denials
- The importance of proactively educating patients
- Working collaboratively as a revenue cycle team
Below is an edited transcript of the podcast. Listen to the full episode here.
Robyn Hoffmann: It’s my distinct pleasure to introduce my colleagues. I'll start with Denny Roberge, who is a recognized subject matter expert on revenue cycle and patient access transformation, revenue integrity program management, and back-end revenue cycle redesign. Denny, you've been called upon to share your revenue cycle expertise with various chapters of the Healthcare Financial Management Association, and also with the mid-Atlantic region of the National Association of Healthcare Revenue Integrity. And it's my pleasure to also introduce my colleague, Roger Rego. Roger, you bring to BerryDunn over 30 years of experience from the not-for-profit healthcare sector. You've worked as a Chief Financial Officer at a Federally Qualified Health Center (FQHC). You've worked in hospital settings and you've also worked for Medicare and for TRICARE.
Denny, I saw you were the author of what was a really wonderful article for BerryDunn, which was published back in March 2020. The title of that article was “Preparing Your Revenue Cycle for the Pandemic – COVID-19.” Now the pandemic has finally ended. With the end of the Public Health Emergency and the unwinding of Medicaid continuous eligibility, can you give our listeners some examples of the impacts on what we at BerryDunn refer to as the “schedistration” segments of revenue cycle?
Denny Roberge: Certainly, a lot has changed in terms of the healthcare landscape from the payer side, provider side, all throughout it. It’s been a really challenging time. But when it comes back down to it, we think about our revenue cycle and the challenges that we had pre-, post-, and during the pandemic, we've always had issues in and continue to have the issues around making sure that we're getting the right demographic and insurance information so that we can:
- Bill correctly
- Eliminate the denials
- Eliminate patient frustration from getting bills that they don't deserve
When we talk about “schedistration,” that's really combining two processes that are often disjointed: the scheduling event and the registration event. There are plenty of different ways you can structure a revenue cycle on intake, but ideally, you really can't start a good financial clearance process unless you have the basic information you need, and the best time to do that is when you have the patient in need of a service and on the phone. So, when we talk about “schedistration” and those types of things, it's really combining that scheduled event or the earliest event possible in your revenue cycle to start getting the information you need to start processing that patient.
And by processing, I mean verifying that, in fact, the information they gave you from the insurance company is correct. From there, if there is a patient balance, making sure that they're aware of it, having those discussions, or if they qualify for charity care or other programs, assisting them in finding that. If the service requires authorization, the time to do it is as soon as you can start really working on that patient, which is the scheduling event most of the time. And again, sometimes even at an ordering event, you can start the same process.
But to your point, you know now that we're in this post-pandemic era where we've got a new challenge, right, the Medicaid eligibility criteria are rolled back now. So, it comes back to:
- You're not going to get paid if you bill the wrong insurance
- If a patient doesn't have the means to pay, you're also not going to get paid
Looking forward—or backwards, I should say, in the revenue cycle continuum to really make sure we understand that patient’s financial obligations, what they have for insurance. If they just lost their Medicaid or what is available to them, and the only thing that's available to them is charity care, then enroll them in the charity care program. That's what they're there for, right? Or in the FQHC space, the sliding fee schedule. That's what's best for the patient and it's also what's best for your revenue cycle, so you're not spending time and effort trying to find dollars that aren't there. And so again, this is where getting it right up front really makes a difference. And so, “schedistration,” as soon as you can start getting that information and clearing that patient, is essential. Right now, we've got that new challenge because a lot of insurances are changing for a really vulnerable population.
Robyn Hoffmann: I'd like to turn to Roger now, who has worked as a CFO in an FQHC. And I'm wondering, should there be any changes in the design of a healthcare organization’s internal reports due to the unwinding of the Medicaid continuous eligibility? Would there be a need to increase the frequency of generating internal reports to identify whether your organization might be heading toward some losses in reimbursement?
Roger Rego: With the unwinding of this emergency, and the Medicaid coming out, now, it's even that much more important because we've had the last two-and-a-half, three years where Medicaid was much more available to people. With that rolled back, it's going to really make a demand on the whole revenue cycle, especially in the back end. Like you said, it's very important to get all that information upfront, but we know that there are times when that doesn't happen.
Then the responsibility comes to the back end who is seeing it. Unfortunately, by the time they see it, it’s too late and, especially in the Medicaid world, if a person lost Medicaid, maybe that patient doesn't even realize it. It's important that not just one person or that your billers are the ones watching for denials, you want a team to be meeting on a regular basis. Bring a team together that has the whole revenue cycle: your patient access coding, your departments, your IT, your business office, and work through those reports as a team and take a look at what's causing your denials. There's going to possibly be more opportunity to see denials increasing on the Medicaid side, which, if you're not being proactive or not getting your patient signed up for charity care or sliding fee scales, it's going to be hard for collections and it's just going to be hard for the organization.
Robyn Hoffmann: Denny, because you are so knowledgeable about EHR systems, is there any way that the EHR can be used to help to inform patients about these imminent changes?
Denny Roberge: The good thing with the EHR technology is most of them integrate to and from the payers, you know, the 27X responses. It can bring you a lot of information about their eligibility, term dates, and so forth. Again, for me, the best practice has always been to start financially clearing the patient ahead of time, and this is where the EHR can become a tool of real value.
If you select your EHR correctly—if your EHR doesn't have the functionality, there are plenty of bolt-on companies that can assist, and the value of it is well worth any cost. You can create a workflow where, as soon as the patient is scheduled, you start verifying their benefits, and at that point you'll know if they'll be eligible or not for their upcoming visit.
You can use that response to reach back out to the patient and engage them in the charity care process, sliding fee process, and/or enroll them in an alternative plan. There are a lot of different ways you can reach out to a patient with these tools, technologies, and workflows and be assured that if you follow the right workflow, that the patient has coverage and that you're not going to have any issues on the back end. These processes can be heavily automated so that your team is only looking at the exceptions. So, if I register and I'm good, I'm green, you don't have to worry about me. And if you come back red, it tells you that no matter what you do on the back end, you're not going to pay—you're not going to get paid because that patient’s registration is incorrect, and those are the ones you should focus all your effort on. I’m a big advocate of setting up the workflows within your EHR and, to me, that is the only way you can officially and effectively create a best practice front end.
Robyn Hoffmann: Roger, do you have any thoughts about this in terms of ways that healthcare organizations can inform either their established patients or new, and are shopping for a new primary care provider, about the unwinding of Medicaid? Are there ways that you would recommend organizations take action in addition to all of the EHR opportunities that Denny has offered?
Roger Rego: Within your EHR, you can run a report that lists all your Medicaid patients. So, you could go through that report and do an eligibility check on all the people who are established patients. If you identify people who have lost Medicaid, instead of waiting for them to come in, you can actually start reaching out to them now. That way you're going to be able to change what's in their demographics and they're going to be pretty happy that you're contacting them to walk them through the process.
You want staff to be educated on Medicaid, what this all means, and the changes that are happening and be able to explain that to the people ahead of time. It’s really critical to be doing that for new patients. What if they're out there looking for a new provider? You can let them know about the end of the COVID emergency and changes in Medicaid enrollment using your website, using Facebook, using Twitter, and any other means that you have to reach out to patients. I would recommend that for any changes within your organization that impact patients. Even your established patients are going to look at your website. Sometimes they're going to make an appointment there. Sometimes they're looking to see what specialists there are, so I mean, it's a great way to educate patients on the different changes.
Denny Roberge: That's great, Roger. And I know Robyn was asking for our final thoughts about the end of the pandemic and what we think organizations should be looking at and doing. There's been a lot of change since the pandemic began, and those changes are things that we learned to adapt to quickly. We learn to respond to things. And those skills we learned, I think we have to make sure we keep them sharp and continue to focus on the commercial and the government regulations because the commercial payers are probably going to start pulling back on a lot of different things that they allowed around telehealth and coverage.
You really want to make sure you're monitoring your commercial payers, monitoring Medicare, because we're in a new period. I think rapid change and the kind of change we've seen in the past is here to stay. It's going to be on us, as providers, to stay on top of things and we have to be proactive and not reactive if we really want to make sure that our revenue cycles are healthy. Those would be my parting words: just keep up the nimbleness and willingness to change. Those are going to be the guiding strengths that help you and your organization succeed and remain strong in the future months.
Roger Rego: That's great information, Denny and to follow up on that, the important thing is to be really working as a team. Because if one department identifies something, and they're not talking to anybody else, it's just not going to work. It's really important that you're working together as a revenue cycle team: front end, middle, back end, it's all the same. The key piece is to just keep working together, stay on top of it, and watch for changes. When you identify changes, get it out to everybody in the organization and make sure they're aware of it.
Robyn Hoffmann: Denny and Roger, thanks again for sharing your insights. We've reached the conclusion of our discussion about the impacts of the close of the COVID-19 Public Health Emergency on revenue cycle operations and the unwinding of the Medicaid continuous eligibility provision. We welcome your questions and feedback about the ideas we discussed, as well as suggestions for topics that we should consider developing for future episodes.
Disclaimer: The content we discussed is based on our professional experience advising healthcare providers, facilities, and other organizations that engage BerryDunn for compliance and other services. While we may reference specific government programs, Medicare and Medicaid policies, and regulatory guidance, we do not speak for any government agency or contractor, nor do we have the authority to do so. Nothing in this podcast should be considered legal advice. Anyone seeking legal advice on the subjects we discuss should consult their own attorney.